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Post by phxsuns on Dec 3, 2013 19:12:14 GMT -5
I am looking to trade right now (and apparently a lot of people don't like my offers so if you want to send me an offer).
I am looking for consistency and to benefit in %'s, pts, ast, blks
If you have flexibility these players are amazing but I need consistent stat production and while sometimes they are amazing other times they underproduce.
I will also accept offers for other players then these as long as they are mutually beneficial
The main players I am looking to trade Kawhi Leonard - So much potential but to inconsistent Josh Smith - Amazing stats but inconsistent Ray Allen - Great stats but inconsistent Danillo Gallinari - WIll be great when healthy but injured Tyson Chandler - Will be great when healthy but injured
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Post by spurs champs on Dec 3, 2013 19:53:22 GMT -5
I am looking mostly for ast. I would be willing to trade Sanders which would give you want you want.
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Post by pp on Dec 4, 2013 1:16:53 GMT -5
I think you may have to rethink what you are offering PHX.
Ty Lawson: 20ppg 4rpg 8apg, 46% 75% 1.2 threes 1.2 spg OJ Mayo: 15ppg 3rpg 2apg 41% 91% 2 threes .8 spg
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Leonard: 11ppg 6rpg 1apg 49% 75% 0.6 threes, 2spg. Teletovic: 6ppg 3rpg .6apg 37% 69% 1.2 threes
When you finished the offer with "This trade is fair and mutually beneficial" I choked on my food. No offence, but it is good to make you aware of it. Granted I threw a low ball offer your way it isn't in the same ball park as this.
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Post by phxsuns on Dec 4, 2013 8:45:20 GMT -5
I think you may have to rethink what you are offering PHX. Ty Lawson: 20ppg 4rpg 8apg, 46% 75% 1.2 threes 1.2 spg OJ Mayo: 15ppg 3rpg 2apg 41% 91% 2 threes .8 spg for Leonard: 11ppg 6rpg 1apg 49% 75% 0.6 threes, 2spg. Teletovic: 6ppg 3rpg .6apg 37% 69% 1.2 threes When you finished the offer with "This trade is fair and mutually beneficial" I choked on my food. No offence, but it is good to make you aware of it. Granted I threw a low ball offer your way it isn't in the same ball park as this. You win in FG%, Reb, ST, Blks, and TO from that trade, why is that not fair if you benefit in 5 and i benefit in 4?
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Post by pp on Dec 4, 2013 16:39:24 GMT -5
Because merely adding together statistics in that manner is erroneous in assessing the fundamental value in a trade.
For example, I would gain nothing from the small difference in FG when the quantity of shots being put up is minimal, steals are a wash, and blocks are irrelevant from those positions. The gain is in categories that will have barely any effect on my team, while the ones I lose are significant.
Essentially it is a guy with potential who is currently only operating a slight notch above Tony Allen in fantasy value, and one who should be on the waiver wire. Take OJ Mayo out of it and I still don't pull the trigger
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Post by ua on Dec 4, 2013 17:52:28 GMT -5
I would be willing to take that bum Leonard off your hands. He is such a huge disappointment, But I could use a guard that can get me a steal from time to time.
How do you feel about Tristan Thompson, varajao, Splitter?
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Post by spurs champs on Dec 4, 2013 18:34:22 GMT -5
he wanted affalo and Mathews for him and JJ
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Post by malice on Dec 5, 2013 16:30:39 GMT -5
Take OJ Mayo out of it and I still don't pull the trigger Yup, I've had a few trade offers of that ilk thus far this season too.
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Post by gbmb34 Sheboygan Redskins on Dec 16, 2013 16:29:50 GMT -5
phxsuns trades are always garbage.
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Post by munchymart on Dec 16, 2013 17:28:42 GMT -5
lol sorry if I offended you with my offer phxsuns, you seem quite upset. but if you actually look at the numbers and productions and not just the name of the player you would've found I benefit in %s (FT% was the main reason I wanted to do that deal), 3's and steals, but you benefit in points, rebounds and blocks. I was also quite happy to adjust or up my offer if you were keen but you seem very upset so I guess its not really going to be doable
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Post by phxsuns on Dec 17, 2013 0:01:26 GMT -5
lol sorry if I offended you with my offer phxsuns, you seem quite upset. but if you actually look at the numbers and productions and not just the name of the player you would've found I benefit in %s (FT% was the main reason I wanted to do that deal), 3's and steals, but you benefit in points, rebounds and blocks. I was also quite happy to adjust or up my offer if you were keen but you seem very upset so I guess its not really going to be doable I don't know how I benefitted in points from that, and the reb was such minor considering i was losing in 6 categories, I will be willing to do a deal but that one was just so bad for me, espeically since hardaway and leonard are both doing much better and look like they are going to get much better soon.
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Post by pp on Dec 17, 2013 1:12:47 GMT -5
What was the deal - out of interest?
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Post by phxsuns on Dec 17, 2013 3:04:40 GMT -5
He wanted to give me terrence ross and jared dudley for kawhi leonard and tim hardaway
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Post by munchymart on Dec 17, 2013 4:12:21 GMT -5
lol sorry if I offended you with my offer phxsuns, you seem quite upset. but if you actually look at the numbers and productions and not just the name of the player you would've found I benefit in %s (FT% was the main reason I wanted to do that deal), 3's and steals, but you benefit in points, rebounds and blocks. I was also quite happy to adjust or up my offer if you were keen but you seem very upset so I guess its not really going to be doable I don't know how I benefitted in points from that, and the reb was such minor considering i was losing in 6 categories, I will be willing to do a deal but that one was just so bad for me, espeically since hardaway and leonard are both doing much better and look like they are going to get much better soon. Eh maybe you're looking at T Jones' season long stats, not his stats as a starter. As a starter Jones has been scoring and rebounding more than Leonard, and is averaging 1.5 blocks and almost a steal a game. Leonard over the past 30 days: 11 and 6 on 51/81 shooting and 0.7 3's a game. 2 steals and 0.5 blocks. Jones over the past 30 days: 12 and 7 on 52/56 shooting and 0.7 3's a game. 0.7 steals and 1.4 blocks. The idea was to offer you Jones (who has been a better fantasy player than Leonard this season) for Kawhi, while offering you a second rotation player as insurance in case Jones' playing time takes a slight hit if they trade Asik for a forward. I don't actually care about Hardaway, just thought he was a guy you would be looking to drop if I proposed a two for one. Thought you might hit up a counter or decline but didn't think you'd get so upset and offended with me haha. (Ps your counter offer later today was laughable ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) )
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Post by phxsuns on Dec 17, 2013 14:36:34 GMT -5
I don't know how I benefitted in points from that, and the reb was such minor considering i was losing in 6 categories, I will be willing to do a deal but that one was just so bad for me, espeically since hardaway and leonard are both doing much better and look like they are going to get much better soon. Eh maybe you're looking at T Jones' season long stats, not his stats as a starter. As a starter Jones has been scoring and rebounding more than Leonard, and is averaging 1.5 blocks and almost a steal a game. Leonard over the past 30 days: 11 and 6 on 51/81 shooting and 0.7 3's a game. 2 steals and 0.5 blocks. Jones over the past 30 days: 12 and 7 on 52/56 shooting and 0.7 3's a game. 0.7 steals and 1.4 blocks. The idea was to offer you Jones (who has been a better fantasy player than Leonard this season) for Kawhi, while offering you a second rotation player as insurance in case Jones' playing time takes a slight hit if they trade Asik for a forward. I don't actually care about Hardaway, just thought he was a guy you would be looking to drop if I proposed a two for one. Thought you might hit up a counter or decline but didn't think you'd get so upset and offended with me haha. (Ps your counter offer later today was laughable ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) ) My counter offer is a fair deal, Jennings and Duncan for Leonard and Allen benefits you in percentages, 3pm, stls, and to's and benefits me where i want it which is pts, blks, rebs, asts
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