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Post by Mr. Clutch's Gang on Nov 18, 2016 14:58:35 GMT -5
Nice insight on the draft picks Larry! We will see how many actually stick in the league in the years to come. When the next crop of rookies come into the league this years rookies that didn't show much may never get a chance to prove themselves with only so many potential playing time spots. Any rookie outside the top 10 is a crap shoot.
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Post by spurs champs on Nov 18, 2016 20:21:32 GMT -5
I see it as being more in this league as in the 10 keeper league you are either trying to win so don't care to much about rookies as he probably would not make the cut any way. You could also be trying to rebuild and then having someone at the end of your bench could help you. Here since everyone is a keeper it is hard to get young unless you are able to keep that person.
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Post by ua on Nov 19, 2016 15:42:03 GMT -5
No I think it's a lot easier to get young in here than in the little keeper league. In here you can get young and stay Young as long as you want to (that sounded creepy) because you have the keeper space to do it. In the other league you have to cut ties with your young prospects at the end of every season because you need to take as many minutes producing veterans into the next year as possible.
Except for Ben Simmons I've already gotten rid of all of my rookies. Rookies are like lottery scratch off tickets we take a chance on hoping they will pop out of the gate. I know when I'm looking at rookies I'm looking for some sign of life… just something that will give me hope, a few minutes per game maybe, some positive news… Something. Just give me a sign telling me which direction you're team is expecting to use you in… give me a pulse! But when that scratch off ticket comes up a loser getting zero minutes you usually have to end up cutting ties and going with a different rookie or just a solid veteran. I'm not out of the playoff race yet, but at some point if I should be you'll likely see me dumping all these old guys at the end of my bench and picking up a bunch of do nothing rookies so I can start looking forward to next year.
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Post by schwidawg on Nov 19, 2016 19:02:06 GMT -5
No I think it's a lot easier to get young in here than in the little keeper league. In here you can get young and stay Young as long as you want to (that sounded creepy) because you have the keeper space to do it. In the other league you have to cut ties with your young prospects at the end of every season because you need to take as many minutes producing veterans into the next year as possible. Except for Ben Simmons I've already gotten rid of all of my rookies. Rookies are like lottery scratch off tickets we take a chance on hoping they will pop out of the gate. I know when I'm looking at rookies I'm looking for some sign of life… just something that will give me hope, a few minutes per game maybe, some positive news… Something. Just give me a sign telling me which direction you're team is expecting to use you in… give me a pulse! But when that scratch off ticket comes up a loser getting zero minutes you usually have to end up cutting ties and going with a different rookie or just a solid veteran. I'm not out of the playoff race yet, but at some point if I should be you'll likely see me dumping all these old guys at the end of my bench and picking up a bunch of do nothing rookies so I can start looking forward to next year. I think you hit the nail on the head. Drafting rookies works in theory but it's a long term plan. I think having a solid veteran group with a few key rookies is the way to go. If you get a Julius Randel one year then a D'Angleo Russell next year, those are impact rookies that pay dividends right away. Players like Jae Crowder or Isaiah Thomas, who are second round picks, are worth stashing when rookies and will help in the future but can we as fantasy coaches hold off that long and take that gamble? I can say already this season, I am getting the itch to cut players right away if I do see the results I like. I think I need to be more patient because it's a long season, I need to give players a chance and realize I can't win every week. |
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Post by magohaydz on Nov 19, 2016 19:21:23 GMT -5
Apologies for my play of late guys. I havent been very involved as I have some personal shit in my life making anything else a bit hard to concentrate on.
I decided I need to concentrate on something I enjoy, like basketball (thanks to Jim for the real life advice), so I'll be making alot more of an effort from now on.
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Post by schwidawg on Nov 19, 2016 22:43:38 GMT -5
no apologies needed here. keep your head up always brotha!!
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Post by spurs champs on Nov 20, 2016 12:44:42 GMT -5
No I think it's a lot easier to get young in here than in the little keeper league. In here you can get young and stay Young as long as you want to (that sounded creepy) because you have the keeper space to do it. In the other league you have to cut ties with your young prospects at the end of every season because you need to take as many minutes producing veterans into the next year as possible. Except for Ben Simmons I've already gotten rid of all of my rookies. Rookies are like lottery scratch off tickets we take a chance on hoping they will pop out of the gate. I know when I'm looking at rookies I'm looking for some sign of life… just something that will give me hope, a few minutes per game maybe, some positive news… Something. Just give me a sign telling me which direction you're team is expecting to use you in… give me a pulse! But when that scratch off ticket comes up a loser getting zero minutes you usually have to end up cutting ties and going with a different rookie or just a solid veteran. I'm not out of the playoff race yet, but at some point if I should be you'll likely see me dumping all these old guys at the end of my bench and picking up a bunch of do nothing rookies so I can start looking forward to next year. I disagree on the fact that that one is easier to hold as you only keep 10. Once you get to 10 keepers you have no reason to hold onto someone younger (until you start getting old). here your not going to have 17 good keepers so you have an incentive to get that good player. on my keeper team Mrry would have been gone long time ago, there is a reason why we only have one draft in the keeper league and those rookies I bet are cut earlier then in this one. |
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Post by ua on Nov 20, 2016 12:48:08 GMT -5
Shwidog, I think trying to win every week is probably part of my problem. And your approach is very similar to mine… ie A roster of mostly veterans with only maybe a couple prospects at the end of the bench. I figure at the end of the year there are always a lot of free agents available that are doing nothing, most these cut rookies, that "should" see increased opportunities in the following season. I find that I can't exactly be in attack mode and in look to the future mode at the same time. Wolves went the opposite extreme getting almost nothing but young prospect players knowing I'm sure he would have a bad record in his first year. Talk about patience and dedication. That paid off with a much more competitive team this year. It remains to be seen if the strategy will produce championships but it sure seems like a fun way to go about doing it.
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Post by ua on Nov 20, 2016 12:51:35 GMT -5
Spurs I can't tell if you are agreeing with me by disagreeing with me or disagreeing with me by agreeing with me.
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Post by spurs champs on Nov 20, 2016 14:03:14 GMT -5
Spurs I can't tell if you are agreeing with me by disagreeing with me or disagreeing with me by agreeing with me. I disagree with you. You state it would be easier to keep someone on the keeper team that isnt playing (young) while still trying to win. i say that it is difficult more there as people in this league are more likely to hang onto their rookies. |
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Post by spurs champs on Nov 20, 2016 23:59:58 GMT -5
I donno, your off to a heck of a start. I'll be keeping an eye on your game. Should be a good match. GL this week Spurs. Good match up Schwin. I did not want to say anything before it was over. It was good to go up against a top team to see how my team stacks up and wither I should go for a tank or keep playing. I guess it is time to keep playing. |
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Post by Reavers on Nov 21, 2016 9:46:30 GMT -5
Personally the better your team and the worse your team is makes it easier to hang onto younger players. I've managed to hang onto 2-3 young players in the Keeper league and still maintain a top 3 record in spite of injuries because I typically roster around 12 top 100 players. Right now i have 10 top 100 guys, but I'm also carrying 3 guys that are averaging 6.4ppg, 5.5ppg, and 5.2ppg and still in first place. I'm currently in 5th place here after drafting young guys last year and being in last place, yet right now I've got 9 top 100 players but still carrying 4 guys averaging less than 6.4ppg and getting sporadic playing time. Unless you have a roster chock full of guys that are 25-30 that are starters I would rather keep a young player with the potential to be a starter than a good role player bench guy unless he's putting up elite role player stats of which there is only a handful of in the league atm.
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Post by ua on Nov 21, 2016 15:53:31 GMT -5
I don't remember stating that it was easier to keep young players in the keeper league then in the dynasty. Of course it's easier to keep young players in the dynasty league, if I said otherwise than I miss spoke.
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Post by schwidawg on Nov 21, 2016 23:01:23 GMT -5
Yeah, solid win there Spurs!! That was a really nice match.
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