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Post by ua on Jul 19, 2012 10:11:03 GMT -5
If there is one thing we can all agree on, it's that basketball is really the heart of this league an. I think it is important for the soul of the league to always have a place where non-partisan basketball can always be talked about.
You don't have to report on the biggest stories of the day (we can read the newspaper for that anyway), but you can also post something more obscure, like a free agent prospect. I know in years past in threads like this one I have gotten really good tips on free agent aquisitions that helped me out in other leagues. We might as well pool our intelligence here.
Have a good season SL and KL peoples. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
You can always tell when I am oposting something from my phone and when I'm posting from a computer keyboard. Hint: the length... Ane fact that I'm at a keyboard now means I'm going to throw out as much junk for amusement as I can think of off the top .
- I've got to admit, starting off, that I'm kind of impressed with what the Lakers have done. Last season in the playoffs they looked done, now they look reloaded. Nash, Kobe, Jamison, Pau, and Dwight or Bynum is nice.
- Ray Ray going to the Heat and rejoining Rashard Lewis(?) did I read that right? Rashard hasn't put in a day of work since he parted ways with Ray Allen in Seattle, I wonder if he will manage a resurgent or inspired year, or if his pockets are just too full of cold hard cash. That is one rich lazy man.
- I Of interest to my KL team, Nic Batum got signed by Minnsota where I assume they are going to depend on him to anchor the SF, which I guess brings Derrick Williams' fantasy value to about zero now. Sorry Redskins.
- - On the Spurs, as long as I'm here I might as well mention them... Duncan signed what is assumed to be his final 3 year contract before he retires. Another FA season come and gone for the Spurs in looking for a 7 footer to play with Tim, and again nothing. It's pretty bad, and you know you live in the proverbial small market, when you are hoping against hope that 2nd rate washed-up hacks like Kaman, or Camby, or Brand will sign a contract with us. So, the team is going to look almost exactly like it did last season. I'm going to give Danny Green (starting sg) and Diaw a little bit of a pass for TOTALLY DISAPPEARING in the playoffs, but with this full season ahead of them, I expect consistant production and no choking. At least my man Stephen Jackson is back. I'm a big fan of his game, so glad he's back in SA, he never should have left. Oh, one more tidbit of news... Dejuan Blair has been complaining publicly about his role on the team. Now, you've got to understand, we do things differently in SA than in many other NBA towns. When a guy starts griping publicly about something, you know he is about to exit the city by way of trade or waive. Don't expect Blair back, the Spurs will probablt trade him for a whole person pretty soon.
- Dallas getting Mayo and Kaman in the offseason. I sometimes wish we had a 24 hour camera on Cuban's facial expressions... I would have loved to see the expression on his face when it finally sunk in that he had no shot at Dwight Howard. It's already funny enough watching him courtside at losing games. The Mavs and the Rockets need to step it up... the Spurs didn't even improve in the offseason and we are still the class of the state.
-On the the subject of Team USA Basketball...... The Olympics is exactly 1 week away. This is a good team, of course, but unlike Dream Team 1, I think they might have some weaknesses. Over-confidence for one thing.
- -New Jersey moving to Brooklyn, I guess that's news. Deron and Joe, Humph and Lopez, I guess? ...I'm really kinda pretending to care here. I don't see anything special there.
- - That's all... I guess I'm come here from time to time to vent about something bball related.
Later
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Post by Reavers on Jul 19, 2012 10:25:20 GMT -5
Quick reaction- POR matched Batum, keeping him
Brooklyn-you forgot Gerald Wallace, team is an offense powerhouse, but their defense should be pretty offensive too. Still they are probably the third best team in the East behind Miami (the rich get richer, although trading away Moultrie was dumb) and the Celtics (adding Jet+Sullinger, plus Bradley when healthy).
Lakers-IF they get the Dwightmare OMG. Nash is now pretty much their offensive coordinator and Mike Brown gets to keep his job despite being awful. Nash+Gasol PnR all day long, Dwight you get the garbage at the rim, Kobe better learn how to catch and shoot. btw-I really like the Cavs if they get Bynum too.
Aside from that I'm keeping my trap shut as I tend to give away too many players that I want to draft on my fantasy teams.
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Post by ua on Jul 19, 2012 11:22:09 GMT -5
Yeah im the same way. One may note i carefully avoided rookie and fa interests.
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Post by pm24 on Jul 19, 2012 18:41:59 GMT -5
Courtney Lee to boston ........could he be there new starting sg?
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Post by Reavers on Jul 19, 2012 18:52:12 GMT -5
yes since Bradley won't be back to start the season
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2012 19:28:41 GMT -5
Ahh yes, the one thing I havent missed since U.A went MIA is the constant spurs biased dribble. The class of the state? Dude the spurs have done sweet F all for years now. Any chance of a championship is done and dusted and in reality? Each season they continue to run with Duncan/the flopper and the one eyed warrior as their "big 3" will see them decline from here on out.
As for my view of the off season so far?
I like what Boston is doing. Sullinger is a ready made replacement for when Garnett retires from pushing around PG's. JET is still one of the worst defensive guards in the league, but he'll give Boston something they have missed for quite awhile, some scoring off the bench. Losing Ray won't hurt as much as long as Terry continues to score. Courtney Lee is the big signing for mine. Forget Bradley, Lee is a great talent and can only get better.
Miami are scary with a legit 3 point shooter off the bench now (no, Mike Miller never counted for the last couple of years). Throw in Rashard (I'll take my money to south beach) and this team is going back to the finals with Rose being out majority of the season and Brooklyn being terribly overated.
Speaking of Brooklyn, yep, overated. But regardless, they are still better than the Knicks and that in itself is a big LOL.
The Mavs? Well hang on one second, it's quite funny how much San Antonio fans hate Cuban (just going back to U.A's original post). The only reason they dislike him so much is because he bashed on their ugly, piss looking riverwalk haha. But going back to the mavs, we were idiots in the first place for putting all our eggs into one basket for Deron. But either way, we walked out with a pretty solid signing of 4 players in Mayo, Kaman, Collison and Brand. Mayo will take over Terry's role as Dirk's second option in scoring, Kaman is without a doubt the second best center we've ever had here, throw Brand in as a backup, and we're got some grunt down low. Whilst Brand is not the same player he once was, the dude still averages over 2 offensive boards per game and he still holds down the paint well defensively. Collison is the iffy pickup. We got him for absolutely peanuts, but I'm not convinced he's the long term solution. I'm just happy we've gone a bit younger, oh and watch out for Jae Crowder long term. Kid is an energy/hustle player that if he can figure out the game at this level, is a very nice nba player.
What else? Oh yeah, Hornets won't improve much. Monty Williams will get fired, Austin Rivers will be one of the biggest busts we'll see in quite some time (mark it). Anthony Davis is talented but he'll quickly figure out that he won't be able to dominate playing with the big boys.
Bulls without Rose will still be a top 3 seed as Thibs is a BOSS coach. Spurs will decline like no tomorrow. Lakers look hell scary if Kobe necks up and lets Nash run the show. If Howard is traded over there (who the hell knows anymore) then he and Nash are going to run a pick and roll show for the ages.
Rookie of the year for me? Damian Lillard MVP (LeBron again, he'll also end up getting some fan fare back now that Dwight is the number 1 bad guy).
Heat to go back to back, and U.A will carry over false hope that the spurs still have a chance.
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Post by pm24 on Jul 19, 2012 21:19:51 GMT -5
Ummmm you mean Miami now has multiple 3pt threats: Lewis, Ray Allen, Battier......
I agree on Lillard too, he's in the best position, and the most ready to contribute of all the draftees i've seen in summer league.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2012 23:39:44 GMT -5
Ahh, no, they have 1 legit 3 point shooter, 1 has been in Rashard (not the same player he once was and his shooting has declined big time) and Battier, a defensive wing who shoots 3's from the corner (that does not make him a legit 3 point shooter).
Ray Allen is a legitimate 3 point shooter (can hit them from anywhere consistently). He has declined a little over the years but he's still got something left.
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Post by ardamus42 on Jul 20, 2012 0:14:10 GMT -5
i could see LaBron falling back a notch this yr i remember with the first dream team how exhausted the players were the next season, so dont be surprised if miami gets knocked out in the 2nd round --- the west is as dominant as allways ( the better team for yrs now has been an western conf team) well the Lakers have made themselves interesting nash should give kobe 3 or so great yrs dallas has put their name in the playoff pool memphis is young and hungry the clip joint is hungry and fur the last 2 seasons the spurs have been at the top of it so the east needs the get not only younger, but better and the west needs to keep its dominance and also get younger to get a chance to a championship away form La Bron
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Post by ua on Jul 20, 2012 16:33:19 GMT -5
I never said the spurs had a chance to win a title , i was only saying they are still better than th other 2 teams in th state, which they are.
I think th spurs are still going to finish this season with a top 4 overall reg season record, then fall in the conf finals.
Dallas on th other hand wont make the pplayoffs, AT BEST they will squeek into a 7th or 8th seed and get unceremoniiously thrown through the proverbial hinge-swung saloon doors in the 1st round AGAIN. Book that!
I dont hate Mark Cuban, quite the contrary, he is the gift that keeps on giving. Colllison is overrated and a downgrade from kidd , yeah he's a downgrade from a 40 year old drunk. Collison failed to distinguish himself as the best pg in either of the last cities he was in against less than all star competition. He will be eaten alive by western PGs. Mayo couldnt even beat tony allan out of minutes. Brand is a ghost of his former self and is little or no improvement over the departing Ian Mahimni. Kaman is better than brenda haywood but still a far cry from tyson chandler who cuban fumbled away last summer to clear th way for his foolish and fruitless pursuit of deron n Dhoward. Hey, is it time for dinner? because kaman is due to get injured any minute now.
Hou has even less of a clue. Kevin Mchale should be required to wear the grim reaper costume at work because Death is exactly what he is to the franchises he runs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 23:42:45 GMT -5
I never said the spurs had a chance to win a title , i was only saying they are still better than th other 2 teams in th state, which they are. Correct me if I am wrong, but when you returned here, you were sprouting around that you had the spurs winning the title this season (just gone). Bottom line is you overate them and have always done. They'll fall before that If healthy, we'll make the playoffs. I've got it booked ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Ok, here's where your ignorance and lack of knowledge comes in. First and for most, I'm a Mavs fan and follow this organisation deeply each day. 1. Cuban NEVER let Chandler go. Chander wanted 20 million per season to remain with us, and we were not willing to give him that type of money so he walked. We countered with a 20 million, 1 year deal and he refused to accept that. That's the fact. That is not from MY mouth, that's what was reported throughout many nba circles up until this day and is known to be a fact. 2. Is Kaman better than Chandler? Hell no. Exactly why I said he's the next best center we've had. 3. Collison is 100 times the upgrade to Jason Kidd. Did you watch any games of Kidd last season? The guy is DONE. He can still run the point at a slow rate, but his shooting is as bad as it'll ever before (even worse than his rookie season), his passing is still there and his defense has declined quite alot. Now the funny part. Your quote of Collison not being the best pg in either cities he's played in? Are you serious? He played for the Hornets under CP3. How is that possible? Sure, he sucked in Indiana a lot, but it's not like George Hill was any better (obviously you'll rank him higher because he's a former spur and anyone that has played for the spurs is automatically a better than majority in many ignorant spurs fans eyes). 4. Have you seen Mahinmi play outside of San Antonio? He's rubbish. He can't rebound or defend the paint and is a glorfied athletic center. Brand is also trash at his age, but the dude still bangs down low and that's all you need. He's ten times the option then your boy DIAW. Now let's move onto the spurs. How are they "this damn good" in your eyes? They got lucky last season that they played a terrible Utah team first up (badly coached might I add). Then they faced a highly overated Clippers team that has a point guard that is great, but a PF that is nothing more than a glorified Shawn Kemp (not a winner). The Spurs proved a season before that that they have problems keeping up with young teams, especially teams that have a solid center downlow, a shooting PF and a balanced guard rotation (Memphis has that all). They decided to bring in a bunch of old vets to try one last time in Jackson, Diaw ect. That failed and they are going to continue running with that setup this season. I honestly see the spurs on the brink of the playoffs next season in all honesty. 7th/8th seed at best. Duncan is done, Parker is not getting any younger and Ginobili cannot stay healthy. They have some depth but even that depth is average at best in terms of longetivity. For me? 1. OKC 2. Lakers 3. Denver 4. Clippers 5. Memphis 6. Dallas 7. Minni 8. San Antonio Look at the above teams and look at how old the Spurs look nowadays. The only reason they did so well this previous season is because it was a shortened season, they got the Jazz first (terrible team with no legit guards) and the overated, regular season superstars in the Clipps. Spurs will once again fall back into the pack now that they enter another long, 82 game reg season. BOOK IT OLD BOY
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Post by Reavers on Jul 22, 2012 7:47:44 GMT -5
Roost in midseason form already, lol. I do like Collison, the kid can run, play the whole game without slowing down, pretty good defender, good ft shooter (although he doesn't get to the line much. Indy was a bad fit offensively for him, he needs to pick and roll. Maybe Dirk and he will get along fabulously. Also agree on Mahinmi, like the kid but not worth the 4 mil per. He's a poor rebounder that likes to take 10-12' jumpers. I think he'd be good next to a quality Center. The Mavs wanted him to take the starting Center job last year because Heywood sucks, but he couldn't do it. I haven't seen anything out of Brand in 2 maybe 3 years. He's ok in the halfcourt and he's a bargain for the Mavs so not a bad move. Kaman, lol. He can still score, probably has gotten better in that regard, but don't count on him for D more than a handful of plays per game. Maybe being on a good team that changes, and maybe he'll set screens for the Dirk. Kaman will turn it over though so don't give him the ball early or often. Still he is a bargain. Apparently the Mavs are walmart shoppers this year. Like Mayo, two years ago he looked like a poor mans Harden in the playoffs.This year he was awful. Maybe a change of scenery helps him out. Love Crowder, could be the next matrix so it's really cool that he gets to be his understudy for a year or two. Like Cunningham a lot too, hopefully he can make the transition to PG. In the meantime he has ups for days. So while I like the pieces Roost, but I'm not sure the pieces fit in Dallas. Half the team needs to run, the other half needs a walker. I also think you forget the Western version of the Brooklyn Nets in Golden State. If they are healthy, they are in the playoffs.
1. OKC 2. Lakers 3. Denver 4. San Antonio 5. Clippers 6. Memphis 7. GSW 8. TWolves
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 8:09:30 GMT -5
I expect you to underate us Reavy. A year ago you tried to place a bet with me that the bucks would finish with a higher overall reg season record than the mavs. You too are also a hater, and it's simply because of 98.
I still laugh that no one in this league has given Cuban, dirk and this organization any credit for 2011. But eh, it's expected. Bunch of haters and spurs fans here.
I hear the same shit every season pretty much dating back to the warriors beating us in the first round. Each year it's the same crap, "the mavs wont get to the playoffs, Dirk is soft, ect ect". It's the same old shit, I'm far too used to reading it.
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Post by Reavers on Jul 22, 2012 9:21:31 GMT -5
wasn't that two years ago roost? lol, the way I see it you owe me for that one, lol. Ah well, the Bucks suck again too if it makes you feel any better, and I really could care less about 98 but feel free to keep bringing it up. You against the world Roost, just the way you like it.
Looks like Houston gets Lin and Asik. I just hope they don't get Dwight or Bynum.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 9:57:58 GMT -5
Then you are truly a man of steel for copping that trade on the chin. Tractor for Dirk, the biggest bust trade in the history of the NBA, and your beloved Bucks are the record holders for it. You care, like every other long term (non Australian, Bogut loving) Bucks fan. But you don't need to convince me buddy, we all know you've got the ducks out back, preparing to pour the water on their backs. Deep down inside those ducks are long, suffering bucks ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) In dirk I trust
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